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Date:	95-07-10 21:43:55 EDT
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			    TRAVELLER Digest 343

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Questions, But No Answers
	by That Computer Guy <darkstar@chopin.udel.edu>
  2) Re: your romance ad in USSR
	by "Harold D. Hale" <HDHALE@smtpwpo.dayt.tasc.com>
  3) Message from ALGUEIRO at BUEVM1
	by BUEVM1@MPGN.COM

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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:19:36 -0400
From: That Computer Guy <darkstar@chopin.udel.edu>
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Questions, But No Answers
Message-ID: <199507100419.AAA12450@chopin.udel.edu>


Well, here's another question that I hope someone can help me with. 
What do I do if I want to create powered melee weapons?  I want to
create batons that pack an electrical `punch' for some characters I'm
working on, but I have no idea where to start off.  Unless I am missing
something, there aren't any such weapons in any of the TNE materials so
I don't have anything to base my designs on.  Any pointers from anyone?

Also, since I haven't gotten any response to the following questions, I
thought I'd repost them just in case they slipped through the cracks
the first time.

This one is primarily for Loren or Dave (or anyone else that may know
the answer).  I'm thinking about converting some old MT designs using
FFS.  Now my question comes from looking at the conversions done on the
Moraine and Beowulf-class free traders.  Looking at them, they have
twice the number of passenger staterooms as what their MT counterpart
did.  Why is this?  Is there any particular reason that the extra rooms
were added and that cargo space taken up?  I'm just looking to see if
there was any specific design philosophy for converting to TNE that I
may be missing.

And lastly, does anyone know what the rules are for not having enough
people to crew a ship?  I can't find them anywhere in the TNE rulebook.
Am I missing something really obvious here, or is this an oversite?

Someone, please help me out!  Thanks in advance.

        --Jerry

8) Jerry Alexandratos                %  "Nothing inhabits my    (8 
8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu         %   thoughts, and oblivion (8
8) darkstar@canary.pearson.udel.edu  %   drives my desires."    (8

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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:29:13 -0400
From: "Harold D. Hale" <HDHALE@smtpwpo.dayt.tasc.com>
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Re: your romance ad in USSR
Message-ID: <s0010108.031@smtpwpo.dayt.tasc.com>

On  Wed, 5 Jul 1995 David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA sent
the following:

>       ##    meet women of the former USSR through romance ads    ##

   Just what I need, more opportunities for reject on an international
scale....

>     Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers
>of the former Soviet Union.  Since that time I have received over 40
>responses for the $50 I mailed Olga.

   Fifteen of these were from women mistakenly placed on the
endangered species list because it was though they were a previously
undiscovered form of land whale.  Ten others were were from
women who could only be classified as Coyote Ugly (tm), five from
women wanted on charges of killing their husands looking to escape
the country, five from women employed by the Russian Mafia to scam
lonely Western men out of money, and five were actually from men
pretending to be women looking for someone stupid enough to mail
them an airline ticket to Berlin so that they can do some shopping.

>(I believe she paid the newspapers something around  $35 and kept the
>rest for her efforts.)

   More like she paid the newspaper the equivalent of five dollars (around
3.4 billion rubles) and took her boyfriend out on the town with the rest.

>     I have found greater success and savings by placing my own
>personal  romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses
>through Russian "bride" catalog companies.

   After all, why go to all the trouble of getting a slick catalogue full of
women hired out by a modelling agency which in no way resemble the
women you will correspond with, when you can get your rejection
and fleecing direct from the source and have nothing to show for it.

>     If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did,
>contact Olga.  

   She wants to take her boyfriend out on the town again.

>She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the 
>former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if
>you  wish.  

   After all, you don't why should you get taken by women in one former
Soviet republic when there are so many?  I'm feeling up for rejection from
Uzbekistan myself.

   By the way, I can get you such a list for less than $50, or you can go
to your public library (preferably a large branch) and get it for free.
Then again, I'd like to take myself out on the town so if....

>She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and
>other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia."

   A true Ukrainian would never refer to Ukraine as "Western Russia"--
that would be an insult.  We'll cut Dave here some slack and assume
that his girlfriend (or so he thinks) Olga is of Russian descent, and that
Joe Stalin "suggested" that her grandpappy or great grandpappy move
west after WW II.

>     Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time
>as a florist in Kiev.  She speaks, reads and writes English as well as
>her native  languages of Russian and Ukrainian.

   She also has an unemployed boyfriend who never takes her
anywhere which is why she needs the money to take him out on the
town.

>     I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an 
>envelope and mail to a foreign country.

   Or a fool.  You figure out which one you are if you respond.

>  If you would rather send a letter of  inquiry first, Olga will respond to
>your questions.  It takes about 16 days  for a letter to travel from the
>USA to Kiev.

   Got to love the efficency of the Ukrainian Secret Police.  It would
have taken the old KGB at least a month to go through your letter looking
for secret spy messages.

>Olga Kozmina
>Dekabristov Street 5 - 178
>Kiev 253121
>Ukraine

   Where's the Unabomber when you need him?

>     I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of 
>newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through
>and does  not bother to tamper.  I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev.

   Now that you've revealed your secret Dave, any bets on whether
the next little bundle of joy will get through unscathed?  Chances are
they weren't looking for cash anyway, or they would have found it.

>  I am sorry  that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make
>contact with her much  easier.

   Now that you've given us her home address, I'm sure one of us with
a friend we can e-mail in Kiev will arrange something just as special 
(and more personal) as flame mail to leave on her doorstep.  An 'I Love
Afghanistan' bumper sticker plastered on the door should go over very
well with the neighbors.

>     I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of 
>e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames.

   My guess is that the ratio of flame to inquiry would be something
like 5,000,000,000 to 1 (I'm not precluding the possibility that someone
might take you seriously).  No doubt some of us would have had some
*really* special things to say to you were you not so much of a
*coward*.  No doubt you have trouble getting dates in the US because 
of your total lack of anything resembling gonads.

>David and Olga

   Only in his dreams....

>     Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of
>"net-etiquette,"  she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of
>angering those who feel  the net should not be used in this fashion.

   Let me get this straight, Dave.  You post someone's name and home
address on the Internet (at this site and God knows where else) without
telling them what the full implications might be?  Not only are you
ball-less, but apparently brainless as well (or maybe Olga is...I doubt
anyone who understood what you were going to do would have
consented to it).  Maybe you're just trying to get back at Olga for p---ing
away your money on her boyfriend.

>     IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site.

   We will do no such thing.  If anything we will stand in support of him
and ask that he take all steps possible to find out who you really are
so that we may let you know what we think of you for wasting our
time with your apparent attempt at international wire fraud. 

>peace. . .

   Like you actually care.

--Harold

(who has vented his spleen and feels much better now....anybody
want to be Olga at this point, with your name and home address posted
to God knows how many sites around the world?  Maybe she should
have her boyfriend open all her mail for a while....)



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Date: 10 Jul 1995 18:26:30
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